could be in your future, you would want a steel frame pistol instead of brass. With 20 grains, it shoots like a charm, so much so that Ive never loaded it any heavier. BORE IS GOOD WITH GOOD 36 Caliber; 60% blue, fair bore, good grips, 5'' barrel, REPRODUCTION OF 1851 NAVY REVOLVER. 36 Caliber; 70% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1861 REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION. Although original 1858s were finished in a very uniform blue, I particularly like the color-case hardening on the frame and the plain-jane, oil-finished grips. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. THE 44-40; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent+ grips, 5 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUCTION OF A REMINGTON MODEL 1875 ARMY REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT OVERALL CONDITION. FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR AND A NAVAL SCENE ENGRAVED ON THE CYLINDER. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. For Civil War pistoleros the best way to rapidly reload any cap-and-ball revolver, including the 1858, was to carry several of them, like this other guya Confederate guerilla from Missouri. Ihave been thinking about getting one of these for a while, I have a question. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. Rolling Grips show some 36 Caliber; 90% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Navy Arms Model 1861 Navy six shot .36 caliber black powder revolver, made by Uberti. Black Powder Revolver Manual. He has a bee in his bonnet, that he is the ONLY person in the world who knows how to correctly clean black Powder revolvers. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. But always remember that the original buffal0 rifles were all black powder cartridges. Despite my kill, in my opinion, its not strong enough but fun as a backup which is why I used it. On the other hand, I also have an ASM 92 clone. But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). He took the gun back. It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Bullshit!!! I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. 1883 Burgess Manual. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. Got one of each. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. The Other Type of Percussion Revolver obtainable on to-days Market, Copies of the Colt Design, are by comparison A very poor second. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? THE BORE IS .45 Colt; near mint bore, like new grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI CATTLEMAN REPRODUCTION OF A COLT SAA IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. Ramrod present. They tell me that they inspect every gun they get and wont sell anything they dont think is high quality, and I believe it. I have an ASM Colt clone. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. I have several cap-and-ball revolvers, all made by Pietta. Retail $300. THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS FRECKLING ALONG WITH LIGHT MUZZLE WEAR. The only Armi San Marcos gun I have a repro 1858 Remington that I bought in the early 1980s and it works fine. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Pretty simple. This was when ASM/Chaparral was making the infamous 73's and 66's. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. 1876 Rifle Manual. FOOD, REcoil is essentially nonexistent. Type: Revolver. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. I found Uberti cap & call cylinders a drop-in fit in both Uberti and Colt 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Navies and Armies. They are the Edsel of. This may provoke howls of outrage, but whitetails with a scoped .243 or .308 is not hunting. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. As for the black powder, read the manual, page 10 in mine. A forum community dedicated to the great outdoors and hunting enthusiasts. Retail $300. If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. Are the parts hand made/fitted, or is the manufacture generic these days? Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. 1883 Burgess Manual. swap out ok between the same model like the 1860 Army? -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. Many find that the higher loads are less accurate. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Remington. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 Theres that great close up of Preachers hands as he swaps cylinders, preparing to deal final justice to Stockburn, the evil marshal whos been terrorizing the small-time miners and the townsfolk with his equally-evil posse of deputies. I know we are here because our forefathers were able to bring down food with primitive firearms. Stainless steel. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. Having said this, I did take a whitetail a couple years ago with my 1858 Remington (standard max load per the Pietta manual). About 400 ft-lbs Energy. I had one of the Pietta 1858 Remingtons and while I enjoyed shooting it and learning about the history and evolution of firearms, the cleaning requirements are intense. I have replacements now, but I keep it around as a back-up. I wasn't there. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 00:33. If you do this you dont need a wad. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Exc condition, appears unfired. Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) Mausers, Lee Enfields, Mosins, Krags etc. Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. I love it. I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Youll love it! But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. The thing now runs great, and I enjoy shooting it when I do. Put the caps in the back and shoot. THE FRAME, HAMMER AND RAM ROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN 97% OF EUROARMS 1858 REMINGTON NEW ARMY - C56032, Westerners Arms Colt Percussion Revolver - C56011, Mendi Single Barrel Percussion Pistol - C55991, Italian Guild Remington Percussion - C55994, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army First load powder, then press ball. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Finally, different guns will perform differently with different sized balls (or conicals), and that is something to experiment with as well. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. Then you must like AWA Peacekeepers (made by Armi San Marco), right? WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. Colt .44 with 30 grain. FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR, SPECKLING AND LIMITED PITTING VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. This version features improved accuracy. I called VTI. I used to also have an 1858 Remington clone by ASM. Both sets of these .38 revolvers seem just a bit smaller in the grips and frames than the ASM .45's. Gauge: 44 percussion. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. That's your build date. I boil all my cylinders in a saucepan, and pour boiling water through the barrels of the guns. I have one of these which I bought after a whole lot of looking and reading. The guns worked flawlessly in stock form when I sold them. What is really going on is that the low velocity sabot or conicals drop quite a bit, and holdovers are extreme. Lock functions well, trigger 44 Caliber; 96% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. 1876 Rifle Manual. Anyone know of a cylinder made for it? The cylinders are pricey, it cost as much as the gun, but I have gotten over the price and enjoy the heck out of shooting and reloading 45s. Looks a lot like the Ruger. So I fire the shotgun first now, and cuss at the rammer, and have 9 chambers of wholy fun otherwise. DO use a stout load. Now, if only I could get my wife to come with me and reload.oh well. with only two hands, juggle the fresh loaded cylnder onto the Arbor Pin, replace the barrel, and drive home the wedge, (Bearing in mind that ones horse might be objecting quite strenuously to all the Booms, Bangs, cracks, and the whine of Shells going past hie ears!. My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. The cylinder! They refused to talk with the others. The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. A black powder gun IS NOT considered a fire arm! See each listing for international shipping options and costs. 1866 Rifle Manual. All smokeless powder and paper free. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. re-grease, assemble, and go shoot for another year! That sucker started flipping all over the place. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . I shot it once in the neck using a 200 grain 45 acp fmj bullet and about 37 grains of 777. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Very good bore and chambers, with light corrosion present. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. I now buy all of my replicas from one distributor EMF Company. If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. Two were pretty good while the third and last was not. Lightning Manual. I have a spare cylinder in the LC so I can keep shooting just by swapping the cylinders. 1860 Henry Manual. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. Thus making it almost impossible for a cap to fall into the workings of the gun. Turned out the Chaparral "factory" was just across the street and run by the gun shop's son . Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. In the interest of keeping shooters out of prison, I will wade in. Easier to load and clean. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 The bad guy carries a Peacemaker (a bit earlier than its actual appearance, but what the hell, it aint a documentary) (Said to have claimed his last victem by shooting him twice, skinning him and nailing his hid on the livery stable door! These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Friends (very few of them) are welcome to spend the night on the sofa, be on the back porch at sunrise, and harvest a doe with his thanks. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. Any help would be appreciated. I have heard it all about these weapons not having the power to stop anything bigger than a deer or coyotes. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 As I got older and learned about black powder, the Remington pre-cartridge design just intuitively looked stronger. A great design of a pistol. Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. For shooting comfortable loads for target shooting I use 20g black-powder followed with 20g of Cream of Wheat then the ball and finally the lard-beeswax. Please click Accept Cookies to continue to use the site. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. Grand Army /Frontier A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. February 24, 2015 in SASS Wire. I had the same problem. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. Gauge: 44 percussion. Cleaned properly, and loaded properly, a Remington Style Percussion Revolver, can be as reliable as a modern Cartridge gun. On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion 1876 Rifle Manual. If youre not lucky, then youve got a tear in your femoral artery and only a few minutes to stop the bleeding before youre introduced to Eliphalet Remington at that great gun factory in the sky. Remington with 40 grains. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. Tsk tsk. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. I think if I was to get a cap and ball revolver I would look for one of the stainless steel Rugers. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52776. I send one of their revolvers back after opening it. Buffalo. . Gauge: 44 percussion. They were in a nut shell, junk. What size/type primers are best? The Beals model came earlier, then the Old Model Army/Navy, and, finally, the new Model. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. I love the old cap and ball revolvers. . I am planning on getting one for my Grandson and maybe one for my Granddaughter. I am sure it will do for deer. That's your build date. It was a good gun but it went down the road in a swap as I don't care for the grip frame on the Remingtons.
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