Its just that Orthodoxy still passes on the early churchs knowledge of how to tune in to the presence of Christ. Some have argued that evangelicals eager to "contend earnestly for the faith" (Jude 3) will find an ally in Orthodoxy's allegiance to the basic truths of Christianity. Such a question cannot be answered through the use of dogmatic assertions or theoretical musings. Yeah, I think Ive gotten it out of my system. Each of them had his idiosyncrasies, and they regularly disagree. "It was a calling of the soul," Devorah Guilah Koren, who converted from Catholicism with her husband and two children, told me. Are Orthodox Christians "Bible believing?". Orthodoxy provides a full-bodied, full-souled spiritual life that assumes that everything you do as a Christian makes you either more like God or less like Him, and because becoming like God is what salvation consists of, that means that everything you do is critical. "More than a . These arguments wont convert anyone. Writing a book on Eastern Orthodoxy and working through the manuscript with my Russian students helped me to compare Orthodoxy and Protestant evangelicalism. Linguistic factors posed other, very practical problems. He states that in Gaul, before setting out towards Rome, Constantine and his army saw a great cross in the sky. While evangelicals might be eager to argue there is no biblical warrant for icons, for the Orthodox it is enough that icons have always been a part of church tradition. As with liturgy, conversion to Orthodoxy is hardly a prerequisite for a renewed engagement with apostolic tradition. In an encyclical letter of 1848, the Eastern patriarchs stated this most emphatically: "Infallibility resides solely in the ecumenicity of the church bound together by mutual love. Telegram | That vision is of the Living God revealed in Jesus Christ, who is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant, the life of the Faithful, the hope of the . Naturally, it is crucial to know what the Church teaches and acquire an Orthodox mindset on the intellectual level, so to speak, but it is equally crucial to grow in identifying with the People of God, the worshipping community, through fellowship. He sailed to Greenland with a priest to convert the people. Growing up in the Bible Belt, I was only ever exposed to Christian theology. In fact, much of what is basic to Christianity: the nature, sources, and interpretation of God's revelation to us, the meaning of the church and its sacraments, the doctrines of sin and salvation, and even how one enters the kingdom of God. YouTube | The Orthodox Church in America, with roots in Moscow and about 85,000 adherents . Early on in the life of the Christian church, the Greek-speaking East and the Latin-speaking West began to diverge. The first is by Lactantius, a tutor to Constantine's son and a good authority. Thus, while the Protestant principle of sola scriptura places Scripture above tradition, for Orthodoxy the two are complementary means of one organic whole through which the Spirit of God speaks. Have something to add about this? Beyond the recovery of history and liturgy, there are deeper and more important questions. In the 950s, Olga, the grandmother of Vladimir, was . Rather, Orthodoxy affirms a single source of revelation, holy tradition, of which Scripture is the preeminent among several forms. When Martin Luther burned the books of Catholic canon law at Wittenberg's Elster Gate on December 10, 1520, he symbolized an important Protestant distinctive. In the end, they concocted a list of reasons for not converting. All Rights ReservedDesigned by Fr. Worshipers prostrate themselves before them and kiss them. Not to be outdone, the Orthodox could respond in kind. Your email address will not be published. I love the Church, and so I find it difficult to understand how a person could not see the beauty in our faith, leaving it all behind. I sincerely wish to know everyone's reasons for converting to Orthodoxy. The basic framework of services like the Divine Liturgy or Vespers doesnt change much, but every day of the liturgical year provides prayers for saints and feasts that can be added to that framework. In any event, feel free to introduce yourself to and speak with the priest and his parishioners. The blog includes recent news and ministry updates of the Convent, as well as other information about Orthodox Christianity that may be useful to those who are either making their first steps in church or want to learn something new about our faith. On June 16, 1054, Pope Leo IX's legate, Cardinal Humbert, delivered a Bull of Excommunication to the Orthodox Patriarch Michael Cerularius on the altar of the Church of the Holy Wisdom at Constantinople while the patriarch prepared to celebrate the Divine Liturgy, condemning him and his court. Take Russia as an example: First, the majority of Russians are non-Christian and unevangelized. As Philip said to Nathaniel, Come and see [John 1:46]. It takes awhile to get it, because its gotten by a process of immersion, by soaking in a context of worship. Rich worship taught the faith to literate and illiterate, peasant and emperor, and its essentially the same as our worship today. This icon, Wedding Icon of The Mother Of God Hello all, forgive me if I am posting to the wrong forum. Your email address will not be published. While Rome stumbled toward destruction in 476, Constantinople enjoyed relative theological and political stability for another 1,000 years, until it was sacked by the Turks in 1453. Receive updates and announcements from Orthodox Witness. The Orthodox Church has suffered throughout her history. Here, according to Ronald Roberson's 1993 book The Eastern Christian Churches, is a list of these churches and their approximate sizes: Constantinople, 3.5 million One is attracted to Orthodoxy in the same way one falls in love. At the beginning, I thought I knew what I was getting into. This woode, Christ (Wedding Icon in Textile Oklad) A priest can provide guidance and support to help converts discern whether the religion is right for them. Orthodoxy looked like taking that escalator up one more floor. It doesnt matter how long they have served, or how extensive their education. Russian Baptists, Adventists, and Pentecostals feel persecuted. There is an organic quality here, and the thing itself is inexpressibly alive. While the Church is certainly Divine in one respect, She is also comprised of human beingshuman beings that can, and do, err. (Some within Orthodoxy say there are 15, but this is a minor, internal debate.) And these prayers are jam-packed. He senses that its something much more profound than that, as he is turning into a different person, the adult he is destined to be. I responded by writing back: "Because I am committed to key distinctives of the Protestant evangelical tradition.". Icons are absolutely central to Orthodoxy, distinguishing it from both Catholicism and Protestantism. Orthodox Priest Explains Why Many People in the West are Converting to Orthodox Christianity. Then C" The strengths of a group draws them but after a while the weaknesses bubble up. 1. Frederica Matthewes-Green reflects on how new converts to Orthodoxy can sometimes be overzealous. All Rights ReservedDesigned by Fr. Wow, like it very much. Orthodox Christians believe you must be converted every day- every day - and everyone must start with this step if they desire to make spiritual progress and be saved. Whereas Western Protestants want to hear the written Word spoken in the sermon, Orthodox believers want to see it in the visual images of iconsas well as hear it in the spoken word. This statement cannot be challenged. It depends on where you put the emphasis. When celebrating the Eucharist, Catholics mixed the wine with water, while the Orthodox did not. Granny and Pops and Uncle Pete love the little guy, and theyre going to be kindly and patient with him because hes going through a phase. Click for reprint information. We are not seeking to reform or to teach the Church how it should do things, but are rather seeking to be formed by the Church and to learn how we should be doing things as faithful Christians. The first, most obvious explanation is that some people simply are obnoxious to start with. The genius of this principle is that it allows us to disagree with other believers, even vehemently so, yet in an edifying fashion with a degree of theological modesty and a perspective that seeks a deeper consensus within the bounds of true faith. That there are too many people joining the Church with a silly belief that they rebelling against the modern world, and hoping to instate absolute monarchy. 5:12). What steps would I take to become an Orthodox Christian? In Protestantism there arose the doctrine of sola scriptura. If anyone is unwilling or not ready to submit to the Church in all areas of life, they should stay awayuntil or unless they are ready to do so. Converts to Orthodoxy usually precede their decision with voluminous reading and research, so their friends must endure agitated lectures on church history, ancient heresies, and what words mean in Greek. A Christian representation of Vladimir I, who was the first Rus' leader to officially bring Christianity to the region. Surely there is enough evangelistic work for everyone. . Any vestiges of hope for unity after the estrangement of 1054 were dashed with the pillage of 1204. You can make an appointment to talk to our parish priest Fr Athanasios by contacting him at (03) 9387 7693. Handcarved Included in this liturgy is an anathema on all those who reject icons. In addition, a new convert must undergo a formal process of initiation. They are the efficacious means by which God transmits his salvific and sanctifying grace to us. Her name is right belief. A second theory is that converts of any sort have a tendency to exuberance that is wearying to outsiders. Here are a few reasons from this man's personal reflection. Greenland. I assumed this would somehow convince me not to continue on my discovery of the Orthodox Church, but it has more solidified it! But this really begs another question: "Essential" for what? The numbers are staggering! The move was far more than geographic. My husband had been an Episcopal priest for 16 years, and we had gradually moved from an evangelical-style low church to the more liturgically-fancy high church. Orthodoxy looked like taking that escalator up one more floor. She rightly claims the wholeness of the truth. The thesis that Eastern Orthodoxy is the true religion was turning out to bear the practical corollary that, to share fully and fruitfully in the life of the Body of Christ, one would almost have. In 1523-24 the Reformers Ulrich Zwingli and Martin Luther donned the gown of the university scholar. It is a good question, one I will answer in due course. These sacraments are not mere signs, symbols, or reminders. Converts from Protestantism claim that Orthodoxy is strongest where evangelicals tend to be weak-its robust liturgical celebration of the majesty and mystery of God, its unyielding insistence on the indispensable role of tradition in theology, and its admirable heritage of perseverance amid terrible fires of persecution. It also must be noted that embracing the faith involves a running to Christ and His Church as the Ark of Salvation, rather than a running away from somethingother than sin. In this video, Fr. After being dunked in this sea of hymnography for a few years I began to recognize an underlying unity among all the elements of Orthodoxythe worship, the fasting, the exhortations to humility, the companionship of the saints, all of it. Intellectuals, like one of my students at Moscow University, often disdain Orthodoxy as a "medieval mentality." To support our efforts, join us as a member . Religion became a state of the Roman Empire, and Christianity became an enormous and influential religion nationwide. Kind of like large scale serial monogamous people. If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you If they persecuted me, they will persecute you (John 15:18. Cyprus, 450,000 Unfortunately the Eastern organization is founded on control and power. Instagram | Do we mean essential for salvation? Hope this helps, and hope that your journey to Orthodoxy is filled with every blessing. While discovering the truth of Orthodoxy is exciting, we need to learn a gracious balance when dealing with our friends, family, workmates and others with whom we have contact. Essential for clergy to pray together, to talk, and to encourage one another in Christ? Submitted by Fr. Orthodoxy attracts seekers with her other-worldliness, with her holiness, with her worship, with her services and sacraments, with the form and content of her religious expression, with her iconography, with her chanting, with her mysticism, with her monasticism, with her life between heaven and earth. One feels that the Church is not just a worldly organization, but a divine-human organism. For example, if a person goes through a great deal of hardship, sacrifice, and turmoil in order to join the Churchas in the case of former clergy in a different communion, or when ones family does not approvethey might feel that the Church owes them for converting. But every church must have its distinctives, or wed all be in the same church. And while they are just beginning to recover, he says, Protestants invade, with all their Western resources, and attempt to draw away the very people the Russian Orthodox Church is attempting to nurture in the faith. Then the reality sets in. Thats surely a factor, but I think theres something else going on, more specific to Orthodox converts. Rome accused the "Greek heretics" of trying to "humiliate and crush the holy catholic and apostolic church." They have not given up the idea of being clergy. Thank you for this! According to the Second Ecumenical Council of Nicea in 787, icons are of equal benefit as Scripture in presenting the gospel message. Schisms had already occurred in the Christian church, and others would occur later, but the Great Schism was the first of such major consequence. Why had a group of conservative American Christians converted to Russian Orthodoxy? Orthodoxy insists tenaciously on the role of tradition which is her very life and builds upon its past, without revisions. Missiological concerns surface here, too. No new dogmas of faith spring out of the blue in her life. She stands firm on her dogmatic and moral teachings. Now let's hear from Frederica. Well, was it so? Becoming an Orthodox Christian is not easy, nor does it promise great happiness or success in this life. For me it was due to the fact that papal supremacy is a later doctrine, yet I could not become a Protestant because the writings of the Fathers do not agree with Protestantism. For them the fundamental schism occurred 500 years earlierin the year 1054 (more about that below). Why didn't Henry VIII go Orthodox, and what would happen if he did? But why is our kind so characteristically obnoxious? Perhaps this unanticipated experience of encountering something unknown and marvelously organic accounts for the distinctive lapel-grabbing impulse among converts to Orthodoxy. The ex clergy thing I think is very real. Others charge complicity with the state, both past and present. Many people believe the Church is a social group gathering or a place to network with other like minded people. Further, rote liturgy can stultify as well as edify, which is one reason why many people prefer more informal or personal worship settings. An evangelical explores the ancient and alien world of the Eastern church. The sacraments of the Church have helped fill countless young people's lives with meaning in ways that are difficult to find elsewhere. (2 Pet. But perhaps our theology of the church is too "low," much lower than our Protestant forebears would have it. But the "little guy" is not going through a phase. However, they rarely spent any time in Orthodox worship services or their local parish, developed no relationship with a priest, and did not engage their spouse or family in their studies and interest in the Church. This conception lessens the validity and value of the Holy Scriptures as the primary source of Christian dogma." With Gossip of the Gospel, the Church Grows in Nepal, After Pushing for UMC Unity, Former Bishop Joins New Denomination, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest, Complete access to articles on ChristianityToday.com, Over 120 years of magazine archives plus full access to all of CTs online archives. Vladimir fled to his kinsman Haakon Sigurdsson, who ruled Norway at the time. Through the centuries, theological, geopolitical, cultural, and linguistic factors have combined to differentiate the Orthodox ethos from Western patterns of Christianity. People often assume that most Jews by choice convert because they have a partner or spouse who is Jewish. While reading about the Orthodox Christian tradition is certainly important, it is crucial to stepliterallyinto an Orthodox Christian parish church near you to witness/experience the Churchs worship and fellowship. In 867, Patriarch Photius of Constantinople told other Christian patriarchs that the Rus' people were converting enthusiastically, but his efforts seem to have entailed no lasting consequences, since the Primary Chronicle and other Slavonic sources describe the tenth-century Rus' as still firmly entrenched in Slavic paganism. The unchangeableness of dogma as well as the purity of rite [are] entrusted to the care not of one hierarchy but of all the people of the church." By the end of the sixth century, neither group could speak the other's language. Protestant theologian Adolf von Harnack once described the Orthodox church as "in her entire structure alien to the Gospel and a perversion of the Christian religion, its reduction to the level of pagan antiquity." Evangelicals focused on social ethics may also find little comradeship in Orthodoxy, as there is nothing in Orthodoxy comparable to the body of Catholic social teaching, for instance. Nicola Yanney, Holy Man of Nebraska, Out of Appalachia: Orthodox Christianity and the Old Regular Baptists, What Do You Believe In? A Aristocles Merarches Joined Apr 23, 2003 Messages 10,031 Reaction score 1 Points 0 Location Pittsburgh Aug 5, 2006 #4 Matthew777 said: Harakas asked. Its not something you can figure out by studying the Church Fathers. Speaking out against a government that is massively exterminating believers, would only lead to greater persecution. Then bear your cross,, Please, include documents that can be downloaded or printed. But I slowly came to see that I cant communicate it. Further, Protestants have long enjoyed rich liturgical traditions of their own (see, for example, Bard Thompson's classic Liturgies of the Western Church). My ideas havent changed, and Im always glad for a good discussion, but maybe Im past the need to belabour them. When we realize that every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle or a matter of conscience, then we are freed to engage fully people with whom we actually have profound differences without compromising our own theological commitments. Why have so many Evangelical ministers embraced the Orthodox faith? (Of course, for every person insisting that there were no differences, there was another person asking me to explain the differences. Andrey brings us the news about Orthodox Christianity (the form of Christianity . The conversion of 2,000 evangelicals in 17 congregations "from Alaska to Atlanta" in 1987, recounted in Peter Gillquist's Becoming Orthodox, is only a small window into a larger phenomenon. This could take some timeperhaps a year or more, depending on a variety of circumstancesand should not be rushed. Just as we pray that Gods will, not our own, be done, so too we pray that we might embrace the faith in Gods time, not our own. After that, Orthodoxy is by far the best possible choice of religion for Russia because of Byzantium. For employment at a seminary? There are many basic beliefs that Orthodoxy and evangelicalism hold in common: the inspiration of Scripture; the two natures of Christ, the finality and uniqueness of Christ's death on the cross, the resurrection, and our future hope of eternal life.
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