I'm also confused by the FAQ about shunning which says something different. He wrote a law: exterminate the gentles, nonmembers, to get their possessions and wealththis explains the medicaid scams and RF meters and cell phone towers and on and on occurring today. WebIn this Mormon Stories Podcast episode, we will hear from Jared and his family about their experiences with the disciplinary council, and discuss their theories as to why Jared was Washingtons Valley Forge vision saw 3 wars on American soilRevolutionary, civil and Smith/Youngs extermination of gentles and controlling all of America. It has mosaic law written into it. Looking at apostate information is considered unforgivable by many and she might not take it well. [105] Exceptions are made in some cases, such as business relations and immediate family household situations. Why do people answer questions at meetings instead of asking them, if the session is called a study (Bible study, WT study)? Does she have the same reaction with something else, let's say with her favorite movies, books, places to travel? There's a lot of bad about this, but if you want to stay with her, be careful about pushing too hard or bringing very much up to her. At the end it talked about the harsh treatment given Mormons who were driven from town to town. This is all covered in detail in a letter the branch sent to all elder bodies in 1981 about apostasy Wouldn't that be yielding to blackmail? First off, your wife is considered pomi, which means physically out, mentally in. But the reality is they are a high-control doomsday cult and your wife is still drinking the kool-aid. I dont care if you use the word beast. [4], An active Jehovah's Witness may have their congregational "privileges of service" limited, even without having committed a serious sin. Jehovah's Witnesses employ various levels of congregational discipline as formal controls administered by congregation elders. If the action is known generally by the entire congregation or the wider community, an announcement is made at the midweek meeting that the person "has been reproved". Thank you. No one believed Smith knew God, and drive him out of town after town after town. Employment promoting false religion. (Category: Apostasy. You know, she might not have even seen the 2016 video I mentioned or read the FAQ on the website, (that's if if she's been out of the org a few years.) We realize this might be a big step for you, and we are grateful for your courage. [11], Members who persist in a course considered scripturally wrong after repeated counsel by elders, but who are not considered guilty of something for which they could be disfellowshipped, can be "marked", based on Jehovah's Witnesses' interpretation of 2Thessalonians3:1415 (NWT): "14 But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked and stop associating with him, so that he may become ashamed. WebShould apostates and sinners be disfellowshipped from the congregation? I think Herbert and several elite leaders are plundering America and UT. This is correct with the caveat that a letter sent to all elders in 1980 does indeed say that someone who is baptized simply disagreeing with the GBs doctrine and not spreading it can still be considered apostasy. People steal from me, damage my home, waste my little money and I can do nothing to stop them. [67] Alternatively, the committee may decide that a serious sin was committed, in which case, the committee gives verbal admonitions and gauges the individual's attitude and repentance. Their verdict was to disfellowship me because I believed in My courage to fight LDS leaders comes from the ten ancestors. WebGitHub export from English Wikipedia. Tell me, when you attended meetings with her was she shunned? As you can see it splits families apart very quickly. Press J to jump to the feed. There's been some good responses to your request for advice. [30] He died on June 2, 2010.[30]. Movements like Mormonstories are definitely having an effect on the church. All JWs are like security keypads that may let you put in a wrong number once or twice (something that challenges their faith), but if you hit too many wrong buttons (what triggers her cognitive dissonance) she will mentally lock up and think that you are an agent if Satan. Contribute to chinapedia/wikipedia.en development by creating an account on GitHub. [59][60] Some have stated that this applies to all individuals who leave the organization. I fucking kid you not. This is my opinion, all the other comments I agree with except the one about cutting your loses. "In the end, religious groups are free to determine their own membership and rules; courts will not intervene in such matters save where it is necessary to resolve an underlying legal dispute," Justice Malcolm Rowe wrote in the decision. He will not! The appeal process is not so they hear you out and change any wrongs in the first process. [28] They wrote regarding Franz' contribution to their expos on the Witnesses that his recommendations "undoubtedly strengthened the veracity of the text; we were impressed by his insistence on both fairness and frankness with respect to representing the view of the Watch Tower Society. WebIf a member mistakenly introduces oneself to a disfellowshipped person, and the disfellowshipped person points it out, the member will quickly hurry away without an A disfellowshipped person is to be shunned by family and Nowhere in 17 does it state the elected by the people have authority to caste the states senate vote in violation of Art. At least that has been my experience; 20 years an elder. Why are you not seeing women teaching on stage at the KH but they are allowed to teach on the streets when preaching? I met her in late 2020 through tinder. Nowhere in 17 does it say the states gave up their senate suffrage when they ratified 17. That doesn't mean she doesn't genuinely love you, more like she likley always planned to return eventually because she still believes in it. In a somewhat unexpected and heretofore unheard of act in the modern area, Jared was informed by his Stake President that he has been Disfellowshipped for Apostasy. Anglicanism has had one, around the ordination of women, between African and Western Anglicans. He was given his own county but he had to keep his people in that country. No one will receive revelation on how to fight it today or which scripture is true. Keep secrets from the organization. Private hearings involving "serious sin" are performed by formal judicial committees, in which guilt and repentance are determined by a tribunal of elders. Where can I find people who will help do this? The LDS have conquered branch 1, house, branch 2, senate, but not branch 3, president. The Internet's most comprehensive resource for ex-Jehovah's Witnesses, a community for support, recovery and a few laughs along the way. Surely that stems from freemasonry, certainly Sis Lusk in a room full of men is a throwback to early days that still exist in the church. My wife is disfellowshipped JW who wishes to be reinstated. WebApostate v. Jehovah's Witness - Part 1 - Alex. See Proclaimers book p.628 bottom part. [5], In 1944, Franz graduated from Gilead, the group's school for training missionaries,[6] and temporarily served the organization as a traveling representative in the continental United States until receiving a missionary assignment to Puerto Rico in 1946. You should be proud of it! Congress (wearing the Deep LDS State mantle) has catered to unpresident Obama and corporate president Nelson s shadow government cramming Smith and Youngs beast laws down our throats. Didnt know it wasnt official though. A number of the GB believed him to be an apostate in 1980, but they didnt have the numbers to remove as such, so he resigned. My mom will constantly talk about JW propaganda, how gay people are lost and unnatural (my wife's sister is gay) and how wonderful it is that God will soon rid earth of all evil etc. [2][19] Consequently, he agreed to a request to resign from the Governing Body and headquarters staff. They are to be disfellowshipped because Jesus is trying to have the Bride appear before the Groom as spotless, and I doubt those whove been disfellowshipped or who resign would be eligible to participate. [120], If an unbaptized individual is deemed unrepentant of actions for which baptized members might be disfellowshipped, an announcement would be made that the person "is no longer a publisher of the good news. [3] Following his removal, Franz wrote two books that related his personal experiences with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society and his views on Jehovah's Witnesses teachings. I could tolerate it when it was just me, but after having a family of my own I will call them out if they mention this stuff in my house. I'm not saying she's a bad person or anything, she's just a victim of the organization. And share your general concerns about religion in general, so you don't single out jws. Smith was a schizo. Members who engage in conduct that is considered inappropriate may be counseled privately by elders and congregational responsibilities may be withheld or restricted. 15 And yet do not consider him an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother. [16] On May 8, 1980, Franz was told that he had been implicated as an apostate. Nowhere in Roe does it say abortionists have a presidential pardon to murder and go unpunished. Joseph goes over the wall to America. Young then began bragging he knew how to get everything he wanted. Causing divisions. Category: Apostasy.) The consciences of the Witnesses are overruled. Her mother didn't answer her phonecalls for 15 years. (Matt 18:18-20). Hitler went after Africa. They knew God would not give it to them. I believe the facebook question Jared received: Are you saying the church is extorting $ from its members re the requirement to pay tithing in order to get to heaven? and his response: Yes, a case can be made for the church extorting $ from its members., hit a nerve with the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Then came Trump. Try to approach it gently. Roe switched Smiths constitution and law with our republic ratified constitution and law. selling lottery tickets, firearms or cigarettes; working in an abortion clinic, church or military base). Good luck with how you pursue this. I'm sorry. [67] A judicial committee, usually consisting of three elders, investigates the details of the alleged sin further. In this Mormon Stories Podcast episode, we will hear from Jared and his family about their experiences with the disciplinary council, and discuss their theories as to why Jared was disfellowshipped (and not excommunicated), in spite of the fact that Jared openly defied the authority of his stake president. I will not fight the battle of which church or scripture is true. Associate with disfellowshipped persons except for immediate family living in the same house 141. This monopoly becomes more evident when individuals opt to differ from the official teachings of the Governing Body (GB), a group of men, who view themselves as Gods sole channel of communication My advice if you're not interested in becoming a JW is that you start asking questions pronto: What was the great sin she committed that got her DF and ignored by all the community? Yes, it most certainly is! We help when we should not be helping. Web6.44K subscribers The Disfellowshipping of Son Of Thunder. She told me shortly after meeting me she was a JW previously and wished to be reinstated. If you feel insulted being called an apostate who is mentally diseased, that is the least of your worries. [89][53] When a judicial committee decides that a baptized Witness has committed a serious sin and is unrepentant, the person is disfellowshipped.