Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. There is significant collector interest in some of the above models, especially the high-grade presentation and military-marked tactical guns. They may not truly trust a semi-auto and are comforted by the simplicity of a pump. The Rise Of The Model 37 Meanwhile, the Ithaca Gun Company wanted to get into the slide-action shotgun business. Standard dimensions are a 1.5-inch drop at comb, 2.25-inch at heel and a 14.25-inch length of pull, reduced to 14 inches for the 28 gauge. He had patented a pump shotgun in 1915 that was somewhat radical because its ejection and loading port was located beneath the receiver. 3% charge on credit card purchase. K-Mart Classics: Remingtons Nylon Rimfires Engineered To Last. the big difference is that slam-fire version is fully auto, less accurate, and only has the illusion of slam-firing. . On most models up to 1975, a second sear was installed that would drop the hammer as soon the gun went into battery if the trigger was in a depressed condition. Fire a pump gun and the chamber isnt reloaded until you rack the slide. Fire an autoloader and, if theres ammo in the magazine, you instantly have another round in the chamber ready to go with your finger on the trigger. vent rib barrel with 4 choke tubes and wr, ITHACA MODEL 8700 12GA 3 INCH MAG DEERSLAYER RIFLED BORE. NOTE: Ithaca introduced interchangeable barrels commencing with serial number 850,000 607.273.4510 211 Dey Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Saturday: 10 AM - 2 PM Learn how your comment data is processed. He did not consider it of any fundamental importance and thus it was not included in his detailed publications. The one I have was made in 1928. 26 vent rib barrel with added choke tube system with one Full choke insert. and our ITHACA MODEL 37 ULTRA FEATHERLIGHT 20 GAUGE 20GA. There is no record I know that explains the rationale behind it. The Ithaca Model 37 is one of the greatest shotguns ever made, light fast handling, all machined parts, no plastic or stamped parts. They used the Remington Model 17 as their model and made modificationssuch as simplifying and cost-saving alterations of the firing pin and ejection mechanism, the work of Ithaca designer Harry Howland in 1931[2]while waiting for related patents to expire. This 8-shot pump shotgun has a 20" barrel chambered 3 inches. If not, when did it appear and it what gun? Barrel has some discoloration. ITHACA MODEL 37 REPEATER Model 37/Standard Grade1937-1983 Model 37S/Skeet Grade1937-1953 Model 37T/Trap1937-1953 Model 37T/Target1954-1961 Model 37R/Solid Rib1940-1967 Model 37 Military Marked (WWII) Model 37RD/Deluxe Solid Rib1954-1962 Model 37 Deerslayer1959-1987 please call text or mess, Ithaca Model 37 12ga. It later became General Recreation Inc., which added general sporting goods, outdoor clothing and catamarans to its line. Its the go-to gun for those shooters who prefer its simple design over the more complicated autoloaders and the pricey doubles and over/unders. Any of these that came to the factory for service were converted back to the original shell stops at no charge. Gas-operated actions are dirtier due to the burnt powder that accumulates and they generally require more maintenance and cleaning. With the depression dragging on and another war looming on the horizon, it was possibly the worst time to introduce a sporting arm. Shows how the Ithaca model 37 slam fires. The same can be said for the semi-auto, but the self-loading guns arent for every shooter. In the action of a typical semi-automatic firearm, the energy of a fired round forces the bolt and bolt carrier rearward, ejecting the empty case. Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. They were intrigued with Remingtons Model 17 and wanted to produce a similar gun. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ithaca Model 37 serial numbers/dates of manufacture - 24hourcampfire Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Hop To BP-B2 IC B2 IC B3 CTV Who's Online Now 742 members ( 160user, 06hunter59, 12344mag, 1936M71, 16penny, 1234, 84 invisible), 1,884 guests, and 1,514 robots. This means the gun would fire as fast as the. Pump action 16 gauge with 26" ribbed barrel, 2 3/4" chamber, improved cylinder choke, and factory recoil pad. In 1987, the name of the Ithaca 37 shotgun was changed to the Model 87. Comb and length dimensions differ for the various models, and if specific measurements are needed, the Ithaca Custom Shop will provide. Ive owned quite a few shotguns over the years over/unders, side-by-sides, autoloaders and pumps. with seldom seen 28 in. WANT TO PURCHASE CALL SHOP 716-941-3946, ITHACA MODEL 37 PUMP 16GA PLAIN BARREL CHOKE FULL BRASS BEAD FRONT SIGHT DATES ABOUT 1953 SERIAL NUMBER 528135 RECEIVER AND BARREL MATCHING SERIAL NUMBERS. Here's what it's like to shoot this classic scattergun. Ithaca soon established itself as a major player in the firearms history. So, I never sent mine back. I never used it was a impulse buy. By 1897, Winchester had made and sold about 30,000 Model 1893s. The company was founded in Ithaca, New York, in 1880 by partners William Henry Baker, Dwight McIntyre, John Van Natta and Leroy H. Smith. The cutoff date on that is around 1975. Seller: Cabelas La Vista. The 16 was made in 1965 and the 12 1974, and the 20 1975. [7] WANT TO PURCHASE CALL SHHOP 716-941-3946, ITHACA DEERSLAYER 12 GAUGE 26 INCH RIFLE SIGHTS SMOOTH BORE 2 3/4in CHAMBER NEAR MINT.CHECKERED STOCK AND FOREARM, CORRECT ITHACA PAD. ITHACA MODEL 8700 12GA DEERSLAYER RIFLED BORE 3 " MAG 12GA, ITHACA MODEL 37 DEERSLAYER 12GA 26" BARREL SMOOTH BORE, Ithaca 37 Ultra Featherlight Slide Shotgun 20ga, Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight 20ga 26 Pump Shotgun Recent Production Exc. All rights reserved, copyrighted, no material within this document may be copied or distributed in any way without the express written permission of the author, Walter Claude Snyder. Winchester decided to go ahead and do their own, but soon found out that the little toggle that opens the bolt to load the first shell was a Browning patent. If you scroll down below the video, I will place a description of the shotgun showcased. The Ithaca Model 37 started life in 1937 in Ithaca, NY. $75 for insured shipping Layaway available No sales or shipping to California, Hawaii, Ne, SALE PENDING JOEY D. 11/24/22 Used only by a little old lady on her way home from Church!We'll not quite but in exceptional hardly used condtion for a 73 yr old shotgun. Still perfectly legal to make a slam fire pump shotgun, it's just not cost effective. Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked full, and 14" LOP. Factory c. ITHACA 37 12GA 28 MOD. Stupidly I didn't get the serial number. The gun is in almost new condit, Smith & Wesson Model 37 Airweight, chambered in .38 Special. This means that if you hold the trigger down while cycling the action, the weapon will fire as soon as the slide reaches the full forward limit of travel, without need for releasing and pulling the trigger for each shot. Looking to get 375 negotiable. 1952 30" full choke barrel. Wood is in very good condition. He is one of the best Model 37 "mechanics" in the world. I wanted one so bad for a while. It is finished in a matte black finish. $895 and FREE SHIPPING to your FFL in the l, Excellent overall condition, a few light handling marks. Weight: 6.7 lb. Buyers beware : My son bought a brand new, in the box, model 37 Featherlight 16 ga. pump from an Ithaca dealer in or around 2012-13. *** Approximately 67 King Ferry Models were made. "Shooter-grade" 37s can still be had in the $200 range. May be due to pressure on trigger by operator as action slide handle is pushed forward. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Production has resumed in Upper Sandusky, Ohio. Scared the hell out of me, but then I realized it was a cool feature. Has slam fire feature. Slamfires are most common in military firearms that have a free-floating firing pin, as opposed to a spring-loaded one. It then mentions that this fault is impossible on the Remington M31, M11 and sportsman, and Savage M720 (all guns with disconnectors)(my words). What year or serial # range did the mod 37 stop being able to slam fire? Serial numbers ranged between 50,000 and 71,999. Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked modified, and 13 3/4" LOP. During World War II, the government contracted with Ithaca to produced 1911A1 pistols, and at one time the company was making more than 2,000 pistols per day. ITHACA MODEL 37 DEERSLAYER 12GA BARREL LENGTH 20 INCH OVER ALL METAL AND WOOD RATES 97% MECHANICS PERFECT. The Ithaca Model 37 has had the longest production run of any pump-action shotgun. Probably not a good idea. The Ithaca 37 is a pump-action shotgun made in large numbers for the civilian, military, and police markets. There is no record I know that explains the rationale behind it. The Ithaca Model 37, now that's a piece of advanced weaponry. Ithaca 37 Featherlight Slide Shotgun 12ga, Ithaca 37 Featherlight 16ga 2 3/4" Shells 28"bbl Shotgun W/ Scope MFG 1970, Ithaca 37 Featherweight Slide Shotgun 12ga, Ithaca 37 Featherlight Deerslayer Slide Shotgun 20ga, Ithaca Model 37 Defense 12ga. An LGS has a 37 for $250. That's nice, I won't feel bad about slamfiring it anymore! $1,299.99. The Remington Model 17 has a disconnect system much like what semi-autos have. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. My older Ithaca is capable of slamfiring. Thanks! However, plans changed when Ithaca became aware of a patent obtained by designer John Pedersen for an improved version of the Remington Model 17, which was due to expire in 1936. TM 9-285 which seems to be Armys take on shotguns in general and for our purposes, the M37. ITHACA 37R, 16 GA., FEATHERLIGHT 28 FULL CHOKE, SOLID RIB BARREL, HIGH COND. Had a little too thick of a glove on and that bastard went off ass soon as cocked it again. The Remington Model 17 has a disconnect system much like what semi-autos have. Sometimes this inertial force is sufficient to set off the primer, thereby firing the round without the operator pulling the trigger. On the slide release there is a "hook" that engages the projection on the hammer. on this subject, I have corresponded with the renowned author and US firearms expert Bruce Canfield. I didn't write down the serial number. The person I talked to said this is the first I have ever heard of any problems with this shotgun. The Model 37 has the fewest parts of any pump shotgun, promoting reliability and creating a smooth, light, positive action. Description: Ithaca, 37, ds police special, 12ga, slam fire, 20" bbl, fiber optic front sight, fixed rear sight, the is a bird scene engraved on receiver, this is a factory gun, it was acquired by the Florida Highway Patrol in 1973, the wood stock looks very good, there are no cracks or . With the growing popularity of smokeless powder, and to avoid any injuries and lawsuits, the company did what might have been the first recall by a firearms manufacturer. The Model 37 had the slam fire from day one, and was discontinued in the late 70's. However, law enforcement agencies could order new guns with the slam fire if desired. This pump-action, bottom-ejecting shotgun is available in a number of configurations. Key: Admin , Global Mod , Mod Synthetic stock and slide forearm. Ithaca M-37 12 ga. (1949 . Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Theyre very smooth, dependable, and durable firearms, Ithaca 37 Featherlight 16 gauge 2 3/4" shells 28" barrel shotgun made in 1970. The New York City Police Department used 2 versions of the Model 37: one with a 13" barrel with forend hand-strap for its Emergency Service Unit and one with an 18" barrel for its Highway Patrol and solo patrol officers of designated low-crime precincts through a short-lived program spanning from the late 1970s to early 1980s. 2 3/4 chamber ,near new overall cond.s/n 3715529xx.click on pi. Rather than acknowledging, promoting or even recognising the slam fire they seem to take a different and safety conscious approach. 1903 (22cal.) $35.00 shipping. Many sporting arms ceased production entirely during the same period. I'm no authority. I have a 1973 Ithaca Model 37 and have never tried to slam fire it,so I do not know if it will slam fire or not.Guess sometime I should try it and find out. I do know the 1975 will slam fire not sure about the 1977 yr or model. The recoil-operated autos are cleaner but some, especially the older long-recoil designs, have more of a kick than either the gas guns or pumps. I think the other page got jumbled at that point because of the four asterisk situation described at the bottom of the page. Barrel lengths for 12-, 16- and 20-gauge guns are 26, 28 or 30 inches, and for the 28 gauge, 26 or 28 inches, all with lengthened forcing cones for better patterns and reduced recoil. It features bottom ejection pump action, engraved receiver, 4 round magazine tube, plain barrel with modified c, Ithaca model 37 20 gauge Featherweight . However, law enforcement agencies could order new guns with the slam fire if desired. Ads were bought in outdoor magazines asking owners of 1893s to send their shotguns to Winchester and be replaced by a new one, the Model 1897. Many sporting arms ceased production entirely during the same period. By 1924 Ithaca was making more than 50,000 guns per year, which was a lot for that period. Manufactured in 1970. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. A favorite of sportsmen, police and the military, the bottom-ejecting M37 made before 1975 or so could be slam fired super fast due to the design of the sear. Ithaca Model 37 serial numbers/dates of manufacture, Re: Ithaca Model 37 serial numbers/dates of manufacture, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Out of stock. I own both and they have plenty of moving parts and safety features to keep the gun from having accidents with misfiring shells while the gun bolt was unlocked, I still have to wonder if it was intentional. Ithaca Acquisition took over the company and moved all the manufacturing to King Ferry, New York. NY: Avon Books, 1995. How can I tell if an Ithaca Model 37 is a slam fire model? That obviously hasnt happened, and today, some 120 years after the first successful slide-action went on the market, the good old pump still plays a big role in the shotgun sports. A slightly used but still functional Ithaca Model 37 DS Police Special provides a great afternoon of fun down at Demolition Ranch. The Model 37 had the slam fire from day one, and was discontinued in the late 70's. The receivers of todays Model 37s are made the way they were made years ago, from a solid block of steel. At one time, the Ithaca 37 was renamed the Model 87, although it was soon changed back in one of many ownership changes. It has aggressive checkering on the polymer pistol grip and r, Metal surfaces rate near excellent, minimal handling marks. The slide release is pressed and the slide retracted completely then pushed forward. The decision was made to wait until the patent for the Model 17 expired in 1933, at which time Ithaca would introduce a new bottom-ejection slide-action to be known as the Model 33. In the current catalog, you will find the Featherlight, Defense Gun, Deerslayer II, Deerslayer III, Turkey Slayer, Waterfowl, Trap Model, Womens Stock and 28 Gauge. The way Ithaca stopped the firing when the bolt was closed and trigger held back was to remove the second sear on the hammer. Action: Manual Pump, Bottom Load & Ejection. Ithaca Model 37 Slam fire * 12 Ga * 2 3/4 chamber * Barrel length 26" * Front bead sight * No interstate sales tax This Ithaca is in used condition, The finish is worn is a few places. With a 2 3/4 in chamber it has a fixed Cyl. And the demand just isn't there, especially now that they've fallen out of the general population's knowledge. As such, its value would be around $400. 25 Improved Cylinder vent rib barrel. I quote Paragraph 30 Ithaca shotgun, 12-gage, M37; Additionally, in paragraph 72 MALFUNCTIONS, POSSIBLE CAUSE AND CORRECTION sub para n(1) gun fires as breech bolt locks. However, due to interruptions of civilian gun production during the First World War, it was 1921 before Remington could begin manufacture of the new gun. The Ithaca 37 is the only preWorld War II shotgun still in production. A Colorado company, Baldritch & Associates, bought Ithaca in 1967. Pump action 16 gauge with 26" ribbed barrel, 2 3/4" chamber, improved cylinder choke, and factory recoil pad. Thanks B, just looked up my dad's, which was originally grandpa's, and it's a 1951 version. The 28-gauge guns are built on a smaller receiver, which gives the model the easy handling and trim appearance one would expect for the gauge. The Model 37 was issued by the LAPD beginning in the 1940s and remained in service until the late 1990s. I just found the serial number page when I was attempting to establish the year of manufacture for my own 37. His website is:www.diamondgunsmithing.com and phone is 607-273-4510. 1. Stay in the know. The old Model 12 Winchesters and early Ithaca Model 37's Pump shotguns had no disconnector , so if you fired the first shot and held the trigger back, when you pumped another round in it would fire a. According to an article by the Ithaca Times dated June 11, 2003, the one-millionth Model 37 was produced in 1968; and as of 2003, more than 2,000,000 Model 37s have been produced. AN ITHACA GUN COMPANY 37 DS POLICE SPECIAL shotgun is currently worth an average price of $1,060.27 used . . Solid gun. His response was that the US army viewed the practice as poor use of ammunition, creating excess wear and poor fire control. My Ithacas will slam fire as well.