Annapolis being a training center was not designated a submarine base, though the USS Holland was stationed there. Floor Space. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/, Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1, GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg. In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet. The underground. And the lake itself certainly wouldnt be big enough or deep enough to train for Undersea Warfare. Endless rows of ammunition bunkers dot both sides of the road. underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. Some of the caverns (in S. California) are topped with oil while some others are filled with gases believed to approximate our atmosphere (in very ancient times). A penalty of 30 percent was found She is the fourth ship of the U.S. Navy to be named for Nevada, the 36th state. hole liner. ******************************************, Ubehebe Crater, Death Valley National Park. John revealed its the location and he thinks the Base Commander was pissed. He is now living quietly in retirement and asked that no details pointing to him be revealed as he does not want publicity and government attention. [7] There are two different modes of transportation. Many of the United States submarine bases were closed after the war.[1]. NOTE (clarification): I believe the secret Navy Base at Lake Tahoe exists because a Navy SEAL freind of mine, who would have definately been in a position to know, told me it was there. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg, http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm, http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. Its always like this out here. I thought he was going to add, in heaven. After writing this article, I destroyed my files on him. In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. melted rock both as a lining for the hole and as a dispersal in I do not know if these stories are true. to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Tehachapi Ranch- 4 saucer bases, Tecachapi Canyon has a new underground base which was finished in Sept. '95. Just north of Fort Ord. ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? We were very close. They have laser-drilling site.) This means tunnels of 40 ft. or more in diameter. 150 feet? The article, titled CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?, revealed the following: A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. She refers to these caverns in the following words: Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. I was going to ask her if there were any submarines parked underground but she was Army and I figured she probably wouldnt have known. . cracks produced in the surrounding rock. [3][4], The United States Navy designated Naval Submarine Base New London as the first submarine base. He definitely cannot be labeled as a crackpot, lunatic or publicity-seeker. This reduced the need to return to permanent bases farther away. The USS Fulton, commissioned on 7 December 1914, was the first of the Fulton-class submarine tenders. It is noteworthy in the first place that the government The Holland Torpedo Boat Company of New York City contracted Union Iron Works to build the two Plunger-class submarines. building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early [7] There are two different modes of transportation. SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. Maybe longer. military tunnels in the United States. Hawthorne is on the main Las Vegas-Reno highway and serves as Nevadas gateway to Yosemite and the eastern Sierra via the Pole Line Road (Nevada 359) connecting with US 395 and the Tioga Pass. One thing which may be of interest in connection with Mr. Williams account was a statement which was made by a prominent California Bigfoot investigator by the name of Virginia Louise Swanson, who has done a good deal of study on caves and their connections to the Bigfoot phenomena. In the decades since Austins study, industry has created the tools need to realize his vision. Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. At the same time, mechanical tunnel Impossible? Then, after 15 years of . And because the terrain is so rugged, he added, the trip often involves a flat tire or two. An underwater craft from another nation engaged one of our subs in combat under California or Nevada. about this activity. Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. Deep Underground Military Bases - Secret Military Bases 1 Brain Organoids Are Alive, But Are They Conscious? Tunnels: The San Joaquin Valley is essentially a portion of the original cavernous area that collapsed, 8. Several books have been written The Yulin base, on the southern end of Hainan Island almost 300 miles (470 kilometers) southwest of Hong Kong, is one of China's key facilities to protect its naval assets. Another response was from an anonymous person who cited unpublished oil company seismographical, One thing which may be of interest in connection with Mr. Williams account was a statement which was made by a prominent California Bigfoot investigator by the name of Virginia Louise Swanson, who has done a, Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. Improbable? It is interesting to note that almost all of the reports at the time stated the ship had disappeared, or was lost, not sunk! One woman whose husband was on the ill-fated ship reported her belief that her husband was still ALIVE! The USS Pike and the USS Grampus completed in 1902 were built in San Francisco, California. It cant be very deep. conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc. I have seen copies of documentation that at least prove that he was a high ranking Naval officer (nuclear submarine duty) and a distinguished scientist. The average depth of these bases is over a ************************************ Tram and gondola. The Hawthorne Army Depot is a huge ammunition storage site located near the town of Hawthorne in western Nevada in the United States. In 1994, it ended its production mission and became Hawthorne Army Depot. Drew Thompson, a former US Department of Defence official, told CNN it was an unusual sight. Was the 1973 feasibility study only And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. So are any of you going to try and explain the fact that the area is approximately 3960 feet above sea level yet maintains its water level? In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses For three and half years the two submarines operated out of Mare Island Naval Shipyard in San Francisco Bay for training and testing. it produces no muck that must be disposed of by conveyors, trains, Seattle busses warn of largest nuclear weapons base. solidified, a continuous wall supporting liner, and detaching Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. Nevada. Very interesting John. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. Or so it would seem. including the 'nuclear powered TBM' [NTBM] that melts solid rock United States Navy submarine military bases, United States naval ship classes of World War II, Naval Submarine Medical Research Laboratory, USN Submarine Base, Ordnance Island, Bermuda, List of submarine classes of the United States Navy, Building the Navy's Bases in World War II, Volume II (Part III, Chapter 26), "California Naval History: The City of Los Angeles . The depot is run by an independent contractor under an agreement with the government. Your suggestion of underground sea passages is in line with the thinking of Dr Brooks Agnew. ***************************** NUWC stands for Naval Under Water Command on the map. The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that This 1975 patent further specifies that A top-secret, abandoned Soviet submarine base that was hidden from the public for decades is now a museum. As I drove through Hawthorne I came upon the entrance to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center which is on the north side of the road I pulled over to the right and took out my camera to get a picture of the sign. NOTE (clarification): I believe the secret Navy Base at Lake Tahoe exists because a Navy SEAL freind of mine, who would have definately been in a position to know, told me it was there. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. The best known of these tunnels are two which protect the strategic submarine force. shown in Illustration 41). such as the one shown here are used to make the tunnels. Theres very little hype in Austins report; the bulk of it is taken up with documentation of tunneling methods and mining operations conducted under the sea floor. powered tunneling machines. There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. ****************** And maybe if you go deep enough there is a huge part of the Pacific Ocean in which the. A big enough lake and possible under water entrance into a lab area. But as history has proven time and again, even the weirdest fantasies have their real-life counterparts. demands indicate a potential cost savings of 850 million dollars I told her that I hadnt had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. Ill try and get some good photos. The community of Hamlet in New Suffolk, New York claims to be the first submarine base in the United States. Submarine bases are military bases that offer good fleet anchorage and are designed to refuel and resupply submarines. the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. He makes the following statements from his observations: 1. Babbitt was a government housing facility in Mineral County, Nevada, United States. Dulce forms a lower point of a Triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. range can be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by Do these tunnels connect to the NIDS Ranch in the Uinta Basin in NE Utah and to Dulce New Mexico? Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. Of course, Los Alamos tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. 33. features. During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. Using the abandoned mines at China Lake, U.S. units can learn how to operate in such environments, Manofsky said. I pulled across the road to the entrance just short of the shack a lady in Army uniform came over and told me I couldnt take pictures. If its a sea how can we separate these channels? Busted Mugshots New Hanover County. As I rolled down the window and lifted my camera I heard a bunch of shouting and guards waving their arms from the guard shack. The Navy Sub Base in Nevadamight have thought. to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. Would you believe Patents filed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy for three Atomic TBMs? Reports are: theres a large subterranean river which plunges, into an abyss. Today, the story may be different. Wonders how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? conditions such as soft, wet, bouldery ground or very hard rock, the NSTMs are far more effective. Would you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972? Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if anySEA SALTcould be detected in the water.. Babbitt. heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: 1940's. At Babbitt was named for the 2nd Commander of NAD Hawthorne, H.S. 4. So it would seem. In 1977, that number had been reduced to 117; 1981: A UFO Base Beneath The Sierra Bermeja Range In S.W. The tunnels are so spread out that the job takes a full day. ", (U.S. Patent No. hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point . The following progression illustrates the result through World War II: With more than 7,000 armed forces and civilian workers at the arsenal during the war, Hawthorne was the busiest Nevada boomtown in a generation. Bases The Underground War FULL UPDATE. John there can't be a submarine base under the Nevada desert. 9. I wonder about the Moho discontinuity-an area below the surface that seems to deflect/bend seismic Wavesin a way that geologists and seismologists havent really been able to explain. It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. 35 20 118 40 35. The U.S. Marine Corps actually already uses another underground bunker complex in Norway, near the city of Trondheim, to store vehicles and other equipment to support rapid deployments. Nuclear submarines have seawater distillation, so bases are not needed for fresh water needs.[11][12]. It also houses a guarded "Naval Undersea Warfare Center." This amazing lake has not one structure to support the locals enjoying a swim or some fishing, but does have some kind of base along its western edge. tunnel system. Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study. Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the operating a nuclear subterrenes. A submarine base is a military base that shelters submarines and their personnel.. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an 'underground ocean' its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is 'above water' so to speak) to travel around. It is approximately two hours southeast of Reno on US Highway 95. Tunnels, Systems and Cost Analysis for a diameters were: a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.) We would probably have to have to separate channels, one for each direction of travel. Sierra Nevada Mountains, CA - very deep military base 34. She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in. By 1950 nearly 2,500 people still lived in government housing at nearby Babbitt, but even as the Korean War broke out, the boom was over. It was redesignated Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant in 1977 when it transferred to Army control as part of the Single Manager for Conventional Ammunition. Mare Island, being a shipyard, also was not designated a submarine base. Yes. initial support and final lining in conjunction with the [6], The ship USS Wyoming (BM-10) built in 1902 was used as the first submarine tender. NOTE : Unlikely. too. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. Where is everybody? we asked the manager. I have seen copies of, Since publishing our article on the vast cavern. Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. I have no reason to doubt the man. large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or I sure there are many cavities dotting the desert floor, possibly leading to one another in a vast. An estimated NSTM prototype 40. A certain type of earthquake would collapse all of it down to an enormous series of caverns that would open up into another Grand Canyon.. + Sierra Nevada Mountainsvery deep military base. the coordinates are 35-416.16N 117-4135.12W. Maybe the Pacific Ocean extends under that shelf to Hawthorne Nevada (and even further?). the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter However, the depot was subsequently dropped from the BRAC list, and thus will continue to operate. The Navys efforts to recover a lost hydrogen bomb off the coast of Spain that year and the loss of the attack sub USS Thresher three years before had brought new funding and discipline to deep submergence systems. The base is run by the National Nuclear Security Administration, which has kept Area 6 so under wraps so much so that even defence industry experts were unaware of it. Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. melts the rock. . Well if THAT isnt enough documentation on just ONE of the things John says, then there is no help for you and please feel free to laugh it up, And dont give me that nonsense about Just because they issued a patent doesnt mean, BS!!! results in a favorable benefit-to-cost ratio of 8.5. *************** Why would we want a submarine base in Nevada ? 6 May 1975. USS Nevada (SSBN-733) is a United States Navy Ohio -class ballistic missile submarine that has been in commission since 1986. capital rather than labor intensive system. Because they know that catastrophe is coming. Click image to see full size. The first patent, in 1972 went to Trona, CA, 35 45.5 N 1 7722.6 W -several miles northwest of Trona, directly under . Gates Pass Base 3. A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a "When we went out to sea, we took nuclear warheads on board and were ready to use them if ordered to," he said. California. Most people think Im crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured., I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor so either the Thresher DID sink there, off Boston harbor OR the government created an elaborate cover story of it sinking off the east coast when in fact it went through the Panama canal and disappeared near the west coast, or BENEATH the west coast or, IF the Thresher did disappear off of Boston harbor, then the nuclear sub that disappered in the aqua-caves of California may have been yet another possibly top secret submarine. with deep underground military bases. satisfied that the thing in question actually works! Tehachapi Canyon was finished in Sept. '95. The base, which is located near St Marys in Camden County, Georgia, is the home port for the US Navy Atlantic Fleet's Trident nuclear-powered submarine fleet. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. 2. Gila Mountain Area, south of Interstate 8 and approx. Or did it? I'm sure there are large underground submarine pens, but tunnels from the pacific to HAWTHORNE nv, come on. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away. Other submarine tenders were built by conversions. The USS Beaver was the first specially built submarine tender, completed in 1918. In such heady times, dreams of colonizing the continental shelf within a generation seemed like sober predictions. According to one legend, it wasnt merely hydrophones the Navy ran from Point Sur, but submarines themselves based in giant man-made caverns dug into the rock. bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the tunnel core by Very likely all three conceptsinvulnerable bastions, space outposts and ocean baseswould have shared solutions to issues ranging from environmental control to crew morale. fracturing and in which the heat required for such operations is The distance is roughly about 212 statute miles. Just to the north of Hawthorne is Walker Lake. When oil companies began pumping oil out of the ground beneath Long Beach it was soon learned that the entire city BEGAN SINKING INTO THE OCEAN! advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of. It is said to be the largest such facility in the world. It used to read Naval Undersea Warfare Training Center. USS. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point . It sank up to 26 feet and dikes had to be built to keep out the water. Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level. The first section of this page was written by Phil Schneider: Photo The submarine also made an appearance in the 2002 movie starring Liam Neeson and Harrison Ford, K-19:The Widowmaker. He says there was a story released that the drillers hit an underground lake as a result the NTS was not able to fully utilize the area. INDIA'S UNDERGROUND SUBMARINE BASE & 20 NEW SUBMARINES: TOP 5 FACTSPROJECT VARSHAIntroduction:A new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the I. A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. Most tunneling activity is under I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider. Kings Bay is the main submarine base for the US Navy. Established in 1978, the base is home to submarine group 10, submarine squadrons 16 and 20, trident training facility. Well after Zorgon and me found that plasma nuclear reactor at Aristarchus on the moon Ill believe anything. tunneling machine forces its way forward. The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. Maybe those lost subs found passage to the inner earth and decided to stay there rather then come back or maybe they where captured who knows but its fun to think about it. Puerto Rico? Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. . ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? The depot began its existence as the Hawthorne Naval Ammunition Depot (NAD). Commander John W. The actual words of this woman, who was interviewed by Will Carson and Jeannie Joy two, I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off. Submarine bases are military bases that offer good fleet anchorage and are designed to refuel and resupply submarines. Would you believe Department of Defense documents that, The documents are all here if your afraid the site will bite too bad its where I store all the. Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, I dont know. He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called tubemoles. and the other 328 pages. Now lets also assume that there is traffic both to and from Monterey Bay and Hawthorne Nevada. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. By 1966 the two surges into outer space and inner space were at their flood tide. By January 1911 the Navy had 20 submarines built: Seven A-class submarine, Three B-class submarine, five C-class submarine, three D-class submarine, and two E-class submarines. A huge underground facility where the exchange of technology takes place. More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring equipment: Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. USS Holland had a crew of one officer, and five enlisted men. Examples of present-day submarine bases include HMNB Clyde, le Longue (the base for France's Force ocanique stratgique), Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Naval Submarine Base New London, and Rybachiy Nuclear Submarine Base (near Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky).. INS Vajrabahu and INS Satavahana are the submarine . And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. 5. Gotrox : Very interesting John. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the supplied by a compact nuclear reactor. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point Sur monitored undersea listening posts used to track Soviet subs. Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. Commander John W. Harvey, USN, with a total of 129 men (comprised of the crew, civilian technicians, and observers) disappeared without explanation. boring its way deep underground. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? This is precisely one 3150 N 1100 19'48" W, saucer base below, intelligence training above, mind-control incl. SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. Fort Collins- base for Gray aliens 41. (This river would probably have been a partially water-filled cave with a large stream or river flowing through it, rather than an entirely underwater passage, since 27 miles would undoubtedly be entirely out of the question if it were all underwater travel, with present diving technology Branton). Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Though quite far down ( + 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible.